Are You A Dumb Disciple?

But they understood nothing about all these things; in fact, what he said was hidden from them, and they did not grasp what he said. 1 min


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With Easter only being a few days away, it’s easy to listen in on the story where Jesus tells the disciples that soon He will be betrayed and suffer, be nailed to a cross and die, and after three days rise again, and think, “dumb disciples, why didn’t they ever get it? Why couldn’t they hear what He told them so plainly and not  just once but three times?”

Thinking about it, I’m not sure the disciples were dumb, or at least that I am any smarter than they were. There are lots of times when I switch off, I hear only what I want to hear, not what was being said. And there have also been quite a number of times that I’ve been speaking to congregations, especially ones where people are angry and frightened, and I’ve noticed that their capacity for hearing what’s being said, or seeing what’s going on can be zero. Truth can be spoken over and over and we just don’t seem to hear it. Strange!

So why did He tell them what was about to go down? I feel that somehow, later, they would recall His words subconsciously. They would say, “I remember, now I get it.” And what exactly would they be getting? That when our plans and predictions go bust and our expectations aren’t fulfilled, God is still God. God is still working and is able to bring about His purposes in spite of our sin.

Today, just because what we thought would happen or should happen doesn’t, it doesn’t mean the whole story is over. The story is God’s story, bigger than we can grasp, better than we can imagine. So let’s listen and not just hear, let’s see and not just look. How? With our spiritual hearts and mind.

But they understood nothing about all these things; in fact, what he said was hidden from them, and they did not grasp what he said.

(Luke 18:34)

Pray With Me
Yahshua, forgive me for being a dumb disciple, for the times when my heart goes hard, and the eyes of my heart are closed, and the ears of my heart are stopped. God, keep working with me, leading me in Your will, healing my heart and opening my eyes and ears to Your grace. In Jesus’ Name! Amen.


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Pastor Ray Patrick
Evangelism. Outreach. Ministry. Pastor Ray Patrick is a R.E Teacher at The Eden School

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  1. So you want me to pray a dumb disciple prayer that is so stupid. Your the only one that is not dumb and the rest of us are? Since this is the Holy Week let’s give thanks to the Roman Catholic priests that wipe off the face of the earth the indigenous people of Peru that even their DNA does not exist anymore. Pray to your gods and kill the families off for governance to your god that man created. The King James Bible was created by the bishops that left the Roman Catholic Church. Nowhere do you teach about the family. Jesus was a Hebrew and ancient Aramaic Hebrew who saw the family as worth saving in a land of gods that man created. You need to worry about your own family. To tell children they are dumb your a fool. I am a father I don’t tell children they are dumb neither does my God in heaven tell me the same thing. That is the dumbest prayer I have ever heard. Peddle your wares and send people into darkness.

  2. I thank God I’m still alive these 43 years later to point out this Historical record and Chronology.
    Obviously, other than being a Messenger, I had nothing to do with this World Generally unfolding along it’s lines so I can’t boast of anything.
    The Time is at hand. We have smart phones and dumb people.

    Long before Trump and Putin appeared on the scene, The Kansas City Times published this Vision of the Future on September 13, 1976,
    “He came to town for the Republican National Convention and will stay until the election in November TO DO GOD’S BIDDING: To tell the world, from Kansas City, this country has been found wanting and its days are numbered […] He gestured toward a gleaming church dome. “The gold dome is the symbol of Babylon,” he said.” […] He wanted to bring to the Public’s attention an “idea being put out subtly and deceptively” by the government that we have to get prepared for a war with Russia.”

    That 1976 FUTURE is NOW with the Revelation of the details GENERALLY unfolding in the spirit of the letter.
    The World is waking up to see Trump may hasten “its days are numbered” part of the 1976 Vision, and waits with bated breath.

    The Kansas City Times did a follow up on ALL SOULS DAY, November 2, 1976.
    The TV movie ‘THE DAY AFTER’ Kansas City was incinerated in a Nuclear Holocaust appeared in 1983.
    At THE END, the movie pauses at the very same picture frame The Kansas City Times chose for the ALL SOULS DAY record 7 years earlier.

    Any way you look at it, those Historical Facts are confirming Signs for our Generations, the World has finally arrived at this point of Decision, of an “idea being put out subtly and deceptively” by the government that we have to get prepared for a war with Russia” slowly working it’s way into the American Psyche with the drumbeat of War within and outside the US.

    The 2 original 1976 Kansas City Times newspaper records, clips from ‘THE DAY AFTER’ Kansas City was incinerated in a Nuclear Holocaust, and much more not included in this comment, can be examined following the link.
    https://ray032.com/2013/09/01/signs-of-the-times/

    1. Mans ability to use reason and logic is a gift from God. Gen 1:26 (KJV)

      To understand the whys and wherefores of the “Great Tribulation” you first need to know who the “hot”, “lukewarm”, and “cold” are.
      15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
      16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Rev 3:15-16 (KJV)

      The bible (KJV) teaches that if you deny Jesus then Jesus will deny you.
      9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
      10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
      11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:9-11 (KJV)
      For God to choose someone because of bloodline, race, or nationality, is bias and prejudice. Those that are sincere in their want for peace and truth are drawn to God because that is what God is, peace IN truth,
      8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. …10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up. James 4:8-10 (KJV)
      And
      28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
      29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
      Romans 2:28-29 (KJV)
      and the same can be said for the Christian. [For he is not a Christian, which is one outwardly;…]
      Being a Jew was a choice not a birthright.
      And
      15 And ye shall leave your name (i.e. Jew) for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, AND CALL HIS SERVANTS BY ANOTHER NAME: (i.e. Christian(the remnant of the true believing Jews)) Isaiah 65:15 (KJV)
      7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
      8 …
      9 But now, after that ye have known God, OR RATHER ARE KNOWN OF GOD, … Gal 4:7-9 (KJV)
      And
      9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, HE IS NONE OF HIS. Romans 8:9 (KJV)
      And
      15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Romans 8:15 (KJV)
      God adopts those who choose him, hence they are called the adoption (the lukewarm).

      And then you have these;
      29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
      30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Romans 8:29-30 (KJV)
      These that are born with the Holy Ghost:
      5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: Judges 13:5 (KJV)
      10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother’s belly.
      Psalms 22:10 (KJV)
      1 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
      2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me; Isaiah 49:1-2 (KJV)
      5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. Jer 1:5 (KJV)
      15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.
      Luke 1:15 (KJV)
      15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace, Gal 1:15 (KJV)
      These are the elect, the prophets, (the hot);
      2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: … 1 Peter 1:2 (KJV)
      They are the 144k, the shepherds of the adoption;
      4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
      5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, …
      Eph 1:4-5 (KJV)
      The reason for this verse;
      2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels (messengers) unawares. Heb 13:2 (KJV)

      And then you have the cold:
      The liar, thief, murderer, and hypocrite.

      Jerusalem is a spiritual city.
      26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. Gal 4:26 (KJV)
      And
      24 An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: IN ALL PLACES WHERE I RECORD MY NAME I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee. Ex 20:24 (KJV)
      And

      Through providence God raises a nation to draw his adopted to,
      1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
      2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
      Rev 12:1-2 (KJV)
      The sun representing the nation of power for the day, the woman representing the adopted (lukewarm), and the child representing a major prophet (elect, hot).
      .
      3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
      4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the Lord. Jer 23:3-4 (KJV).
      And
      43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Matt 21:43 (KJV)
      Exactly the same way he drew his adopted to this nation (U.S.A.) “One nation under God”.
      “Give me your tired, your poor,
      Your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free,
      The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
      Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,
      I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”
      But alas the nation always goes the way of the world and becomes a beast. Seven times God has raised a nation of great power, (represented by the sun) to lead the world to heaven on earth or to desolation. Seven times he has brought it down to the pit (hell), today being the eighth and last time.
      10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
      11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. Rev 17:10-11 (KJV)
      We (U.S.A.) are the ones who brought down fire from heaven in Aug. of 1945 and we are the ones that gave life to the image of the beast in May of 1948.
      13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
      14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
      15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. Rev 13:13-15 (KJV)

      But know this, if the truth were being told then the prophecy,
      14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matt 24:14 (KJV)
      would have happened a years ago.
      But when the true gospel is preached in all nations then all will know the TRUE reason for the “Great Tribulation” which is for all on this earth except the elect (the “hot”) which are caught up to the third heaven (where God dwells) in a twinkling at the last trump, the beginning of the Great Tribulation.
      The hypocritical and unbelieving (the “cold”) for vengeance and wrath unto the second death (the lake of fire, our nearest star). The sincere and believing (the adoption “the lukewarm”) for chastisement unto ever lasting life, that will be spewed out to a new earth (the waters above Gen. 1:6-8) after 3 ½ years of chastisement.
      29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name, and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished: for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the LORD of hosts. Jer 25:29 (KJV)
      And
      15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
      16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. …
      19 As many as I love, I rebuke and CHASTEN: be zealous therefore, and repent.
      Rev 3:15-19 (KJV)

      So at the final trumpet there is this;
      nuclear war, or wwIII
      21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great. Rev 16:21 (KJV)
      Then the U.S.A. (satan, a power and principality) being the only one with relatively any power left will know that they have “but a short time” and will come after the woman, (the adoption) the true children (church) of God.

      Don’t take my word for it, or anybodies for that matter. Come to the bible with sincere want for truth, and not to consume it upon your lusts, but that you may do true worship and obedience to God, with a repentant heart, and with reason and logic the spirit of God will teach.11 … in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11 (KJV)

      May God have mercy on his children. Amen

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